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집똥값?님이 2006-04-14 01:37:07에 쓰신글
>6%-3.5%= 2.5%라 굉장히 Save 하셨네요.
>예) 100만불 짜리 집:
>($1000000*6%=$60000)-($1000000*3.5%=$35000)=$25000 Wow, You saved this amount.
>
>정말 Discount Broker를 쓰면 Commision 을 Save 하죠.
>Zip Realty 에서도 자신들이 Save한 Commision을 자랑하듯이 선전하죠.
>문제는 같은 시기, 같은 동네 비슷한 집을 내놓았을 때 부동산 commision 2~3% 보다는10만 ~20만불을 더 받아 주는 Broker 가 진짜로 Save 한 것인데 Commison 몇푼 아끼려다 큰 돈을 손해보는데 아마 Discount Brokerage 는 별능력-집 가격을 많이 받아 준다거나 빨리 팔게 해준다는 것 같은-이 없으니, 부동산 Commision 으로 소비자들이나 우롱하는 하고 있군요.
>Zip Realty, Help-U-Sell, Assist-U-Sell 이런 Discount Broker가 아무리 Save를 한다 할찌라도 Market 의 10%도 안되는 것은 무엇을 뜻하는건지...
>그리고 Buyer's agent 를 집이 나 찾아 주는 사람으로 취급하면 멍청한 home buyer죠. (왜냐하면 Realtor.com 과 같은 Web site 을 부동산 회사가 owned)
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>집주인님이 2006-04-13 14:21:04에 쓰신글
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>>Writer : 집주인
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>> SUBJECT : 법적으로 더 이상 허용이 안됨니다.
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>>얼마전 살던집 정리해서 매매했는데 우리집 매매 도와준
>>리얼터는 한국분인데 수수료1%만 받고도 예전에 다른 리얼터들이랑
>>서비스 수준 별반 차이없이 무난하게 성사시켰어요
>>요즘은 꼭 중국사람한테 안가도 수수료 할인해줘요
>>난 total해서 3.5%주고 했어요
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>>집값님이 2006-04-11 22:59:51에 쓰신글
>>>얼마전에 Buyer's agent 에게 지불되는 3% commission 은 지나치다 라는 글을 올린적이 있는데, 무슨일 인지 글이 없어졌군요.
>>>(Internet 발달로 Buyer 가 Search, 집 구할때 주의 할점 웬만큼 다알고, 주변 지역 최근 매매시세 조사하여 Offer 금액 결정하고, Loan 직접하고, 그야말로 Agent 는 Documentation 제외하고 거의 하는일이 없는데 3%를?).
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>>>마침 CNNFN 에도 비슷한 내용이 나왔네요.
>>>
>>>A fresh attack on the 6% commission
>>>New real estate brokers are starting to chip away at commissions in the form of buyer's rebates.
>>>
>>>http://money.cnn.com/2006/04/10/real_estate/buyers_target_commissions/index.htm
>>>
>>>NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - These days, when it comes to homebuying, you're doing more of the work. But buyer's agents still claim the same fat fees from sellers when deals close -- generally half of the typical 6 percent commission, or $15,000 on a $500,000 house.
>>>
>>>Traditional brokers are trying to keep it that way, but a new breed of agent is growing in number, kicking back substantial rebates at closing time.
>>>
>>>"Finding the house is probably 75 percent of the work," says Joe Fox, CEO of BuySide, one of those new, Web-based businesses. "Why not give [buyers] 75 percent of the commission?"
>>>
>>>Today, according to the National Association of Realtors, 77 percent of home buyers start their search on the Internet at sites such as Realtor.com. Other sites provide comparison home value estimates and information about town and neighborhood facilities. Offerings include realestateabc, Zillow.com and HomePages.com.
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>>>With their clients doing much of the grunt work, the new "rebaters" are happy to take less for the services that the buyers still require ?such as scheduling appointments with listing agents, preparing documents and guiding clients through closings.
>>>
>>>- For brokers, gain without pain
>>>
>>>Mac McNear, a spokesman for one of these companies, BuySide Realty, says, "Our agents never leave their offices. Buyers find listings themselves, but they don't accompany the buyers on their visits."
>>>
>>>Daniel Odio, who runs a traditional full service brokerage as well as RebateReps.com, says, "One of the main duties of a traditional buyer's agent is to drive clients around to listings. I like to take the taxi driving out of the buying experience."
>>>
>>>That results in a big saving in time and effort.
>>>
>>>BuySide, which has launched in California, Illinois and Florida and expects to be nationwide by early 2008, returns three-quarters of the buyer's agent's share to clients.
>>>
>>>Redfin, which is expanding to California this year, rebates two-thirds of its commissions.
>>>
>>>RebateReps kicks back one percent of the home's selling price (about one-third the commission) to buyers.
>>>
>>>For many buyers, it's found money. For the brokers, it means a much more productive business model. "One agent can do several transactions a week," Kelman says. "While traditional agents do several transactions a year."
>>>
>>>- Traditional brokers react
>>>
>>>How do traditional brokers feel about these new business models? "They hate it," says Odio. "It threatens their livelihood." Odio says he was told, "We'll be blackballed from the industry; that other agents wouldn't show houses to our clients."
>>>
>>>"When we started brokering transactions," says Redfin's Kelman, "people threatened to break our kneecaps."
>>>
>>>But the rebaters have a not-so-secret weapon ?greed. Kelman says. If listing agents get an offer, they want to do a deal ?that is, after all, the only way the seller's agents get paid. And, the rebate has no effect on their end of the commission; they keep their entire share.
>>>
>>>Odio even refers clients to traditional full service brokerages such as RE/Max and Century 21. They accept the deals that include a rebate for clients. "The industry's dirty little secret is that any agent will give a rebate but they won't fess up to it," he says. "I bet I can find an agent anywhere in the country who will be more than willing to do all the hand-holding a client can want and still kick back the one percent."
>>>
>>>Not all brokers are eager to pass along savings. Some have benefited from the efficiencies of technology without lowering their commission rates. And they are doing that during years of soaring home prices, which also raises their profits.
>>>
>>>"Agents can service more clients," says Bob Brisco, CEO of Internet Brands, which launched realestateabc, "and we're seeing the more sophisticated and established brokers, ones able to harness technology, prospering more than ever."
>>>
>>>As Odio says, "The future is already here; it's just unevenly distributed."
>>>
집똥값 님처럼 리얼터가 고객에게 그런식으로 틀에 박힌이야기를 하면
고객들이 누구를 바보로 아느냐 면서 거래 안할겁니다.
(근데 대충 누군지 알겠네 ^^)
집똥값?님이 2006-04-14 01:37:07에 쓰신글
>6%-3.5%= 2.5%라 굉장히 Save 하셨네요.
>예) 100만불 짜리 집:
>($1000000*6%=$60000)-($1000000*3.5%=$35000)=$25000 Wow, You saved this amount.
>
>정말 Discount Broker를 쓰면 Commision 을 Save 하죠.
>Zip Realty 에서도 자신들이 Save한 Commision을 자랑하듯이 선전하죠.
>문제는 같은 시기, 같은 동네 비슷한 집을 내놓았을 때 부동산 commision 2~3% 보다는10만 ~20만불을 더 받아 주는 Broker 가 진짜로 Save 한 것인데 Commison 몇푼 아끼려다 큰 돈을 손해보는데 아마 Discount Brokerage 는 별능력-집 가격을 많이 받아 준다거나 빨리 팔게 해준다는 것 같은-이 없으니, 부동산 Commision 으로 소비자들이나 우롱하는 하고 있군요.
>Zip Realty, Help-U-Sell, Assist-U-Sell 이런 Discount Broker가 아무리 Save를 한다 할찌라도 Market 의 10%도 안되는 것은 무엇을 뜻하는건지...
>그리고 Buyer's agent 를 집이 나 찾아 주는 사람으로 취급하면 멍청한 home buyer죠. (왜냐하면 Realtor.com 과 같은 Web site 을 부동산 회사가 owned)
>
>
>
>집주인님이 2006-04-13 14:21:04에 쓰신글
>>
>>
>>Writer : 집주인
>>
>>
>> SUBJECT : 법적으로 더 이상 허용이 안됨니다.
>>
>>
>>얼마전 살던집 정리해서 매매했는데 우리집 매매 도와준
>>리얼터는 한국분인데 수수료1%만 받고도 예전에 다른 리얼터들이랑
>>서비스 수준 별반 차이없이 무난하게 성사시켰어요
>>요즘은 꼭 중국사람한테 안가도 수수료 할인해줘요
>>난 total해서 3.5%주고 했어요
>>
>>
>>집값님이 2006-04-11 22:59:51에 쓰신글
>>>얼마전에 Buyer's agent 에게 지불되는 3% commission 은 지나치다 라는 글을 올린적이 있는데, 무슨일 인지 글이 없어졌군요.
>>>(Internet 발달로 Buyer 가 Search, 집 구할때 주의 할점 웬만큼 다알고, 주변 지역 최근 매매시세 조사하여 Offer 금액 결정하고, Loan 직접하고, 그야말로 Agent 는 Documentation 제외하고 거의 하는일이 없는데 3%를?).
>>>
>>>마침 CNNFN 에도 비슷한 내용이 나왔네요.
>>>
>>>A fresh attack on the 6% commission
>>>New real estate brokers are starting to chip away at commissions in the form of buyer's rebates.
>>>
>>>http://money.cnn.com/2006/04/10/real_estate/buyers_target_commissions/index.htm
>>>
>>>NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - These days, when it comes to homebuying, you're doing more of the work. But buyer's agents still claim the same fat fees from sellers when deals close -- generally half of the typical 6 percent commission, or $15,000 on a $500,000 house.
>>>
>>>Traditional brokers are trying to keep it that way, but a new breed of agent is growing in number, kicking back substantial rebates at closing time.
>>>
>>>"Finding the house is probably 75 percent of the work," says Joe Fox, CEO of BuySide, one of those new, Web-based businesses. "Why not give [buyers] 75 percent of the commission?"
>>>
>>>Today, according to the National Association of Realtors, 77 percent of home buyers start their search on the Internet at sites such as Realtor.com. Other sites provide comparison home value estimates and information about town and neighborhood facilities. Offerings include realestateabc, Zillow.com and HomePages.com.
>>>
>>>With their clients doing much of the grunt work, the new "rebaters" are happy to take less for the services that the buyers still require ?such as scheduling appointments with listing agents, preparing documents and guiding clients through closings.
>>>
>>>- For brokers, gain without pain
>>>
>>>Mac McNear, a spokesman for one of these companies, BuySide Realty, says, "Our agents never leave their offices. Buyers find listings themselves, but they don't accompany the buyers on their visits."
>>>
>>>Daniel Odio, who runs a traditional full service brokerage as well as RebateReps.com, says, "One of the main duties of a traditional buyer's agent is to drive clients around to listings. I like to take the taxi driving out of the buying experience."
>>>
>>>That results in a big saving in time and effort.
>>>
>>>BuySide, which has launched in California, Illinois and Florida and expects to be nationwide by early 2008, returns three-quarters of the buyer's agent's share to clients.
>>>
>>>Redfin, which is expanding to California this year, rebates two-thirds of its commissions.
>>>
>>>RebateReps kicks back one percent of the home's selling price (about one-third the commission) to buyers.
>>>
>>>For many buyers, it's found money. For the brokers, it means a much more productive business model. "One agent can do several transactions a week," Kelman says. "While traditional agents do several transactions a year."
>>>
>>>- Traditional brokers react
>>>
>>>How do traditional brokers feel about these new business models? "They hate it," says Odio. "It threatens their livelihood." Odio says he was told, "We'll be blackballed from the industry; that other agents wouldn't show houses to our clients."
>>>
>>>"When we started brokering transactions," says Redfin's Kelman, "people threatened to break our kneecaps."
>>>
>>>But the rebaters have a not-so-secret weapon ?greed. Kelman says. If listing agents get an offer, they want to do a deal ?that is, after all, the only way the seller's agents get paid. And, the rebate has no effect on their end of the commission; they keep their entire share.
>>>
>>>Odio even refers clients to traditional full service brokerages such as RE/Max and Century 21. They accept the deals that include a rebate for clients. "The industry's dirty little secret is that any agent will give a rebate but they won't fess up to it," he says. "I bet I can find an agent anywhere in the country who will be more than willing to do all the hand-holding a client can want and still kick back the one percent."
>>>
>>>Not all brokers are eager to pass along savings. Some have benefited from the efficiencies of technology without lowering their commission rates. And they are doing that during years of soaring home prices, which also raises their profits.
>>>
>>>"Agents can service more clients," says Bob Brisco, CEO of Internet Brands, which launched realestateabc, "and we're seeing the more sophisticated and established brokers, ones able to harness technology, prospering more than ever."
>>>
>>>As Odio says, "The future is already here; it's just unevenly distributed."
>>>
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